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Poster: Time Traveller Date: May 05, 2010 10:32:38pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: It's time for formal organization of IA's books

I get notified of all new texts via RSS feed, I just went thru a 2000 item backlog and found nothing worthwhile, due to all the government reports.

That stuff needs to be indexed into categories, otherwise soon we will get to the point that searches will bring up so many useless results, that few people will use the IA, just trained researched and historians.

Peter (2000 items = about 48 hours of uploads)

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Poster: MaureenKennedy Date: May 05, 2010 11:07:50pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: It's time for formal organization of IA's books

Just for your info - doing text minus the government collection brings the book listing up from the first upload. Meaning if you want to see the most recent books, hit last which takes you to page 39 thousand of so, and work you way backwards for the newest listings! Heck of a way to browse.

Just for fun I ran federal government reports and find that there are 7,222 PAGES of about 53 listings a page for a total of 382,766 files. I think they should store them on their own website!

This post was modified by MaureenKennedy on 2010-05-06 06:07:50

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Poster: stbalbach Date: May 06, 2010 07:09:40am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: It's time for formal organization of IA's books

By default there is a link called "See recent additions" on the main texts page. This shows everything uploaded to Internet Archive sorted most recent first, including user uploads, government documents and foreign language texts. For casual browsing purposes, it may be expedient to filter some of this out. Below is an example of how it is done.

This link shows the most recent additions using the following search: [ mediatype:(texts) -collection:(usfederalcourts) -collection:(opensource) AND (language:eng OR language:English OR language:Eng) ]. In other words, it will exclude the government collection, exclude the opensource collection, which has a lot of spam, and will list only English-language works.

You can fine tune the search to your taste, and then bookmark it and use your bookmarked link.

Remember: the "Sort results by: Date added" must be manually clicked on the right side of the screen in order to sort the results by most recent first. Or, add "&sort=-publicdate" at the end of the URL. Sorting by date can not be set via the search string, only by manually changing the URL or clicking the option manually. Once you have the URL set, bookmark it for future use.

Stephen

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Poster: martyveldman Date: May 06, 2010 07:50:41am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: It's time for formal organization of IA's books

In the Sub-Collections, you can click on them also to see the latest additions and they are somewhat catagorized. The Opensource books have some very interesting items and haven't seen any spam lately. Thanks for the link Stephen. I can't seem to figure out how the advanced search works even with instructions! How about a link called 'IA for Dummies'!

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Poster: stbalbach Date: May 06, 2010 08:06:33am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: It's time for formal organization of IA's books

I wrote an informal FAQ that may be of some help
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dc2wxqtd_1cs2hzvnh

If you have any Q on searching let me know. The IA system is really pretty complex because the meta data is not uniform. Searching for "John Jacob Astor" is an entirely different strategy to searching for "Sir Winston Churchill". I *could* write a generic search string that took into account all possibilities so one doesn't have to think about it, but the search field has a length limit, making that impossible. So one has to build complex custom searches each time.

I think they are trying to bring some order to it with Open Library. A "For Dummies" guide would be perfect :)

Stephen

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: May 06, 2010 11:04:24pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: It's time for formal organization of IA's books

BTY, is not a link "IA for Dummies" a breach of a brand name?

Hey Gerry, please comment.

Peter

(I wonder if my name has been trade marked)

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: May 06, 2010 10:54:55pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: It's time for formal organization of IA's books

Yes, they should store the stuff themselves, but hey, there is a recession, and the IA is run on charity.

And on the video Internet Archive, somebody, or NASA is uploading all the videos that you can also download from the NASA servers.

NASA will have proper archiving, so I wonder if its just a sad person with nothing better to do than move videos from NASA to the IA, using up IA paid for bandwidth and storage.

If such stuff has to be archived or catalogued by the IA, why not just post links, linking back to government servers, like NASA's.

Peter.

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Poster: martyveldman Date: May 06, 2010 07:22:55am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: It's time for formal organization of IA's books

Peter, I agree. There should be language catagories as well as BROWSE BOOKS BY SUBJECT as on the Princeton Seminary site. We should also be able to browse the latest uploads the same way. Government reports belong on Government sites.
Marty

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